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> <channel><title>Comments on: 8 Logical Rebuttals of Anti-Piracy Arguments</title> <atom:link href="http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/</link> <description>Music News Interviews Reviews Concerts &#38; MP3s</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:50:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Gouki</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-14453</link> <dc:creator>Gouki</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:29:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-14453</guid> <description>1. I listen to music on the radio in my car, at home though my stereo or on live internet streaming. I rarely buy music CD&#039;s and I Haven&#039;t Downloaded any music.
2. I don&#039;t even know why Musicians/Bands don&#039;t just do internet only downloads anyways..I mean tell me that the BLANK CD&#039;s aren&#039;t for music ?? THEN Geniuses tell me what they are for?? (Expensive Coasters? Frisbee? Make-up Mirror?) Companies like SONY are probably showing a killing in sales on Blank CD&#039;s. It&#039;s not like they are going to step in to save against the piracy.
4. If you don&#039;t want your CD copied,how about trying to do piracy Encoding on the CD..like they do on most DVD at least try to make it a little more difficult to copy/burn. (I bet that the fines don&#039;t go to improving against piracy and it goes straight in to the Old Hip National Bank). For those who don&#039;t know what that means, it is pure pocketing money.
5. You tube and other sites host Songs that have Videos. Either it be the original Video or the posters variation to said Video/Song. I don&#039;t see the Label Companies Jumping all over the hosting sites(since they allow them to be posted) which can still lead to more piracy. Oh yes, lets cry the people are downloading my music for free but not the site that allowed placement of said song/video to begin with.
6. Last but not least, arguing about this hilarious. There are countless people in the world that are going to do what they want or find a way around to do it anyways. I like the reference to the Boston Tea Party...Its been years since that happened and you know what, we haven&#039;t changed much.
PAY for it or DON&#039;T its a choice. I personally rather just listen to the radio so I don&#039;t have to hear the same redundant music on a CD play over and over again.
Let the HATE Replies Commence!!! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I listen to music on the radio in my car, at home though my stereo or on live internet streaming. I rarely buy music CD&#039;s and I Haven&#039;t Downloaded any music.</p><p>2. I don&#039;t even know why Musicians/Bands don&#039;t just do internet only downloads anyways..I mean tell me that the BLANK CD&#039;s aren&#039;t for music ?? THEN Geniuses tell me what they are for?? (Expensive Coasters? Frisbee? Make-up Mirror?) Companies like SONY are probably showing a killing in sales on Blank CD&#039;s. It&#039;s not like they are going to step in to save against the piracy.</p><p>4. If you don&#039;t want your CD copied,how about trying to do piracy Encoding on the CD..like they do on most DVD at least try to make it a little more difficult to copy/burn. (I bet that the fines don&#039;t go to improving against piracy and it goes straight in to the Old Hip National Bank). For those who don&#039;t know what that means, it is pure pocketing money.</p><p>5. You tube and other sites host Songs that have Videos. Either it be the original Video or the posters variation to said Video/Song. I don&#039;t see the Label Companies Jumping all over the hosting sites(since they allow them to be posted) which can still lead to more piracy. Oh yes, lets cry the people are downloading my music for free but not the site that allowed placement of said song/video to begin with.</p><p>6. Last but not least, arguing about this hilarious. There are countless people in the world that are going to do what they want or find a way around to do it anyways. I like the reference to the Boston Tea Party&#8230;Its been years since that happened and you know what, we haven&#039;t changed much.</p><p>PAY for it or DON&#039;T its a choice. I personally rather just listen to the radio so I don&#039;t have to hear the same redundant music on a CD play over and over again.</p><p>Let the HATE Replies Commence!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Comedy Mike</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-14385</link> <dc:creator>Comedy Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-14385</guid> <description>8 Reasons why PIrated music is better:
1. There is no need to travel (potentially) miles away to pick up a CD that probably won&#039;t even be in the badly stocked music store (or you won&#039;t be able to find it due to the terrible &#039;genre&#039; categorizing method they employ)
2. Here in England they go for &#163;15 AS STANDARD. If they are going for &#163;9.99 is because of some &quot;sale&quot; that is on.
3. You get collected playlists from users which introduces you to new music.
4. The albums are great quality 98% of time. I don&#039;t know what retard said they are bad quality.
5. Discographys - &#039;Nuff said
6. Most albums have about three 1 minute insignificant tracks that are really not worth paying for whatsoever. Itunes charge the same price for these usually occurring nubbins of ****.
7. Bands get paid enough for gigs. If they are well liked and don&#039;t take the piss, I (along with anyone else that has a brain) will go out an make a concerted effort to buy their new album.
8. IT&#039;S FREE!!! MUAAAAHHHAHAHAHAAAAAA </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8 Reasons why PIrated music is better:</p><p>1. There is no need to travel (potentially) miles away to pick up a CD that probably won&#039;t even be in the badly stocked music store (or you won&#039;t be able to find it due to the terrible &#039;genre&#039; categorizing method they employ)</p><p>2. Here in England they go for &pound;15 AS STANDARD. If they are going for &pound;9.99 is because of some &quot;sale&quot; that is on.</p><p>3. You get collected playlists from users which introduces you to new music.</p><p>4. The albums are great quality 98% of time. I don&#039;t know what retard said they are bad quality.</p><p>5. Discographys &#8211; &#039;Nuff said</p><p>6. Most albums have about three 1 minute insignificant tracks that are really not worth paying for whatsoever. Itunes charge the same price for these usually occurring nubbins of ****.</p><p>7. Bands get paid enough for gigs. If they are well liked and don&#039;t take the piss, I (along with anyone else that has a brain) will go out an make a concerted effort to buy their new album.</p><p>8. IT&#039;S FREE!!! MUAAAAHHHAHAHAHAAAAAA</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djt</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-14279</link> <dc:creator>djt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:25:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-14279</guid> <description>Don&#039;t listen to the RIAA they overexaggerate things horribly </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t listen to the RIAA they overexaggerate things horribly</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sensei6969</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-13679</link> <dc:creator>sensei6969</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:29:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-13679</guid> <description>this article is just stupid. now i download plenty of music, but there is some bad logic here:
1. i dont know of anybody who wants to buy 3 albums a month. not that much new music comes out (except for bullcrap like miley sirus and jonas brothers, who deserve to be stolen from)
2. saying another&#039;s data is false is a useless arguement, as anybody can come up with a statistic, or turn a number into something they want. everyone does it, including this article, where it says the auto company is the cause of 40,000 layoffs, where in the same article it says that ford recently got rid of 54,000 employees. (not to mention the economic fall out from those job losses (i live near detroit, it&#039;s pretty bad here)
3. yes, itunes is easier and better quality than file sharing. although there are many high quality files out there, there is also alot of crap that i&#039;ve downloaded. and viruses are always possible.
4. the arguement that bands should be in it solely for the music is stupid. if millions of people are going to enjoy something that they made, they damn well better get good money out of it. and the only bands making money on tours are the ones charging $100 a ticket. plus your argument is like saying hookers should be in their business for the sex.
5. this is on the internet.  people can say whatever they want on here, just take a look at wikipedia. i also feel sorry for anyone who gripes on a blog under the illusion that people actually care what they think.
i&#039;m not trying to preach, just trying to expose bullcrap for what it is.
(ps the huge fines for getting caught pirating music are there because of how many people dont get caught) </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this article is just stupid. now i download plenty of music, but there is some bad logic here:</p><p>1. i dont know of anybody who wants to buy 3 albums a month. not that much new music comes out (except for bullcrap like miley sirus and jonas brothers, who deserve to be stolen from)</p><p>2. saying another&#039;s data is false is a useless arguement, as anybody can come up with a statistic, or turn a number into something they want. everyone does it, including this article, where it says the auto company is the cause of 40,000 layoffs, where in the same article it says that ford recently got rid of 54,000 employees. (not to mention the economic fall out from those job losses (i live near detroit, it&#039;s pretty bad here)</p><p>3. yes, itunes is easier and better quality than file sharing. although there are many high quality files out there, there is also alot of crap that i&#039;ve downloaded. and viruses are always possible.</p><p>4. the arguement that bands should be in it solely for the music is stupid. if millions of people are going to enjoy something that they made, they damn well better get good money out of it. and the only bands making money on tours are the ones charging $100 a ticket. plus your argument is like saying hookers should be in their business for the sex.</p><p>5. this is on the internet.  people can say whatever they want on here, just take a look at wikipedia. i also feel sorry for anyone who gripes on a blog under the illusion that people actually care what they think.</p><p>i&#039;m not trying to preach, just trying to expose bullcrap for what it is.</p><p>(ps the huge fines for getting caught pirating music are there because of how many people dont get caught)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sarah</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-13006</link> <dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-13006</guid> <description>hate to break it to you but if we aren&#039;t paying for our music, we&#039;re not paying for our movies either..
we don&#039;t prevent bands from hitting big either, if the band isn&#039;t well known the tracks are generally very hard to find. if we like a band and they&#039;re new out, of course we&#039;ll buy the album, they&#039;re just getting started and need a hand, we&#039;re not bad people!
the amount of money big artists make is ridiculous, and they spend it on what? cars? houses? crap? All i know is that real artists are about the music, not the money, and as long as they&#039;re on stage performing they&#039;ll be happy.
which brings me to another point, we are not stopping them from becoming famous. if you look at the amount of bands that have been discovered by illegal downloading and that have now become extremely successful.
they also have other means of making money, merchandise etc. plus the odd ones who decide to make even more money from perfume and clothes.
so we are not literally hurting the band by not buying their records, we support them in many other ways =] </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hate to break it to you but if we aren&#039;t paying for our music, we&#039;re not paying for our movies either..</p><p>we don&#039;t prevent bands from hitting big either, if the band isn&#039;t well known the tracks are generally very hard to find. if we like a band and they&#039;re new out, of course we&#039;ll buy the album, they&#039;re just getting started and need a hand, we&#039;re not bad people!</p><p>the amount of money big artists make is ridiculous, and they spend it on what? cars? houses? crap? All i know is that real artists are about the music, not the money, and as long as they&#039;re on stage performing they&#039;ll be happy.</p><p>which brings me to another point, we are not stopping them from becoming famous. if you look at the amount of bands that have been discovered by illegal downloading and that have now become extremely successful.</p><p>they also have other means of making money, merchandise etc. plus the odd ones who decide to make even more money from perfume and clothes.</p><p>so we are not literally hurting the band by not buying their records, we support them in many other ways =]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Master Debater</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-12810</link> <dc:creator>Master Debater </dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:32:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-12810</guid> <description>No, that&#039;s not what a straw man fallacy is. A straw man fallacy is one where an argument is made against a misrepresentation of the opponents argument, which may or may not be easier to refute. You&#039;re close, though, good try. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#039;s not what a straw man fallacy is. A straw man fallacy is one where an argument is made against a misrepresentation of the opponents argument, which may or may not be easier to refute. You&#039;re close, though, good try.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: King</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-12659</link> <dc:creator>King</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:25:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-12659</guid> <description>I would be lying if I said I pirated for more altruistic reasons. The music is free, which is the #1 reason I download.
However, I&#039;m also love (love love love) concerts. If a band I know and like is playing within 100 miles of me, I&#039;m getting tickets and dragging my friends along. Luckily, I have friends who listen to the same kind of music. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be lying if I said I pirated for more altruistic reasons. The music is free, which is the #1 reason I download.</p><p>However, I&#039;m also love (love love love) concerts. If a band I know and like is playing within 100 miles of me, I&#039;m getting tickets and dragging my friends along. Luckily, I have friends who listen to the same kind of music.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Felipe</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-12655</link> <dc:creator>Felipe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:33:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-12655</guid> <description>I agree; the one  tv show that doesn&#180;t make me feel bad about pirated music: mtv cribs XD </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree; the one  tv show that doesn&acute;t make me feel bad about pirated music: mtv cribs XD</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bill</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-12443</link> <dc:creator>bill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:05:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-12443</guid> <description>The great artists don&#039;t stop making music because there&#039;s no financial incentive.  You&#039;re not a true musician if money is why you&#039;re in it my man. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great artists don&#039;t stop making music because there&#039;s no financial incentive.  You&#039;re not a true musician if money is why you&#039;re in it my man.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Roy G Biv</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-11332</link> <dc:creator>Roy G Biv</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:00:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-11332</guid> <description>Its amazing the hoops people will go thru to justify behavior that they know is inheriently wrong. By barne&#039;s logic if he has something (anything) and I don&#039;t have it or can&#039;t afford it I should be allowed to take it from him without any worry of compensating him for the item. The mere fact that something is available and I don&#039;t have it or can&#039;t afford it means that I have the right to take it, which of course is pure BS.
A </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing the hoops people will go thru to justify behavior that they know is inheriently wrong. By barne&#039;s logic if he has something (anything) and I don&#039;t have it or can&#039;t afford it I should be allowed to take it from him without any worry of compensating him for the item. The mere fact that something is available and I don&#039;t have it or can&#039;t afford it means that I have the right to take it, which of course is pure BS.</p><p>A</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TKF</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-11331</link> <dc:creator>TKF</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:47:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-11331</guid> <description>Uh, look away from the teaser rack at Best Buy or Target--music is even more expensive now than ever. $18.99? Really? No need... </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, look away from the teaser rack at Best Buy or Target&#8211;music is even more expensive now than ever. $18.99? Really? No need&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bradstor</title><link>http://beatcrave.com/2009-07-02/digital-music-piracy/comment-page-2/#comment-11291</link> <dc:creator>Bradstor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://beatcrave.com/?p=21932#comment-11291</guid> <description>The arguments presented in this article aren&#039;t logical because they ignore one fact: The content owner is the only one who has the right to choose how the content is distributed. No arguments about the RIAA, prices, economics or Boston tea parties (seriously? lol) will change that. They spent the time and money on creating something, and whether they were driven by money or real desire to publish music, it doesn&#039;t mean they don&#039;t deserve the right to choose how they distribute it.
You don&#039;t have a divine right to things other people have created. There&#039;s only one legitimate way to show that you dislike the cost of music and think you should pay less/none, and that&#039;s by boycotting it. By not consuming it. If you cannot go without then you have issues! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arguments presented in this article aren&#039;t logical because they ignore one fact: The content owner is the only one who has the right to choose how the content is distributed. No arguments about the RIAA, prices, economics or Boston tea parties (seriously? lol) will change that. They spent the time and money on creating something, and whether they were driven by money or real desire to publish music, it doesn&#039;t mean they don&#039;t deserve the right to choose how they distribute it.</p><p>You don&#039;t have a divine right to things other people have created. There&#039;s only one legitimate way to show that you dislike the cost of music and think you should pay less/none, and that&#039;s by boycotting it. By not consuming it. If you cannot go without then you have issues!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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